Tuesday, July 14, 2009

Too Friggin' Weird: Chatty Cheney Takes A Vow of Silence - What's He Hiding Now???

I just don't buy it. I don't believe that this super-duper, Top Secret, "Don't tell the head of the CIA what we're doing" project is about killing off Al Qaeda mucky-mucks. We do that already, and whether it's the CIA doing it or a military organization, that would be kind of on-track for the supposed mission in Iraq. No, something doesn't make sense. If this were Denmark, things would be stinking to high Heaven by now.


So what is going on? That's the million dollar question. Wanna hear my conspiracy theory? My completely unverified, no evidence here, gut instinct guess? I am the first to say that I could be totally wrong on this one. But I think there was probably far more domestic eavesdropping and surveillance of American citizens that we were being told. I think it may have involved some detention and questioning of regular folks here in the good ol' USA. And, until called off by Leon Panetta (a very nice guy, by the way. Very considerate, and his wife is a lovely lady...but I digress...), until Mr. Panetta discovered the program was still going on and called it off, I think there was extensive surveillance of American citizens far beyond what we know so far. And that's against the law. even more so is not letting Congress or the superiors in the CIA know about the program, even when it's ordered by the Vice President, Creepy Cheney. And when someone got wind of it, this is the red herring that was thrown out, the bone they threw us to placate the left and the ACLU, and throw folks off the track. "Ah, just tell 'em a bunch of boneheads were listening to phone sex and they'll be sufficiently shocked and buy it, hook, line and sinker."


In 2003, the ACLU put out this reminder about the previous use of domestic surveillance and the illegality of such practices:

In its 1947 charter, the CIA was prohibited from spying against Americans
because, among other things, President Truman was afraid that it would engage in
political abuse. During World War II, the Office of Strategic Services - the
CIA's predecessor - had become known for its skill at blackmail, extortion and
the collection of information through other dubious methods. President Truman
feared the implications of such behavior during peacetime on America's basic
democratic institutions. The policy against military involvement in law
enforcement investigations is even more venerable. The Posse Comitatus Act of
1878 forbids military involvement in civilian policing, keeping troops focused
on their military mission.

Again, this is pure conjecture on my part, but I'd bet there was a return to these "dubious methods," right along with torture overseas. We already know of extraordinary rendition occurring, and we have yet to be given the full truth on that. The ACLU was ahead of its time in their warning about the slippery slope we take when agreeing to domestic spying, search and seizure without warrants, and the right to listen to private citizens' email and phone conversations. And I'd bet it has gone further than we'd ever dream once placed in the hands of the CIA. That's why Chatty Cheney has had his mouth shut all week. He knows Leon's on to him, and is afraid he'll talk.

Which brings me to another point: isn't it illegal for the Vice-President to be giving orders in the president's stead in regards to National Security, wars, CIA methods, etc.? Isn't is illegal for the VP to act as Prez unless there has been a written statement by the President that he is/will be incapacitated or unable to fulfill his duties? (Okay, so we all know that Dubya was unfit for duty from day one, that's a given. He couldn't get the keg to the frat party without incident, for Chrissakes...But he never admitted it in writing.) Seems to me that no matter what his crimes turn out to be, Chatty Cheney was the ones giving the orders to withhold info from the Oversight Committee, and was the one who ordered that not even the head of the CIA needs to know. That, in itself, is criminal. The buck stops there.

Sadly, Cheney probably has no need to worry his fat, bald head. None of the Cheney Administration's (Did I say Cheney? I thought I was just thinking it...) blatant abuses of the Constitution or Federal law seem to be raising many eyebrows in Washington. I agree to an extent that we need to move forward, but how can we look forward as a nation if we set the precedent that when the wanna-be Commander-in-Chief (in this case, the VP, or "Acting Prez") does something illegal, he is exempt from prosecution? That's not a precedent I want to set.

So, it's rare, but there you have it. Probably my one and only ever conspiracy theory, totally unfounded in truth. Although, if Sarah Palin wanted to, she could probably find plenty of blogs I've written in the past year for which to sue me, most based entirely in fact. Back to factual fare soon - thanks for allowing me my flight of fancy. And, hey, who knows? In twenty years, we may find out there was some factual basis for all my musings!

4 comments:

Annette said...

I think you are spot on girl.. and I think the truth will come out in time.. I also think that there will be consequences but lets get this Health Care taken care of.. You know AG Holder is talking of a Special Prosecutor, and Congress is now talking of having hearings...well even if they do that, just the humiliation factor would be enough for me.... To know that either Shrub was so weak kneed that Cheney was really the power or that Shrub was and that Cheney is just full of hot air and all talk.. either one is all I would need..because neither of them would be able to show their faces in public again.

I think one of the reasons they have held off.. and it bothers the hell out of me, is that there is just not enough outrage out there from people over the abuses that were done... I am really sickened by the things that were done, the torture, the wiretaps, all of it.. but other than just us on the left, it seems there just isn't enough of an outrage.. That's the problem..

If there was enough on both sides, to stand up and yell..then it would happen..but there just isn't.. shameful isn't it?

However, if it was a democratic president... I would bet they would be screaming long and loud for his head...what you want to bet..

Monkey Girl said...

I know you're on to something.

Giving amnesty to phone companies, internet companies before they left office was just the beginning.

My husband and I have been saying that we're under surveillance whenever we see the Comcast "truck" in our area. Or you hear the clicking on the phone, or distance phone noise.

I figure it's like Nikon's cabinet of crooks who wiretapped people, planted evidence, etc... but on a much larger scale.

We just watched a documentary last weekend called (I think) the Never Ending War, it was mind blowing. And basically confirmed our gut feelings all along, that Cheney was really running the country...not Bush.

mommapolitico said...

Hi Annette,
Yeah, it is shameful, Girl. I think you're right - not enough outrage on the part of the general public. And. like you, this gal will be satisfied with any consequence at this point-I am afraid that too much time will pass and it'll all be considered "water under the bridge." Hooray for Holder and the Special Prosecutor...preferably one with big teeth an a hankerin' for some GOP! Great comments, Annette. Many thanks, Girlfriend!

mommapolitico said...

Hey, MG,
Glad you can confirm those weird clicks and pops The Hubby and I keep hearing. ;) Seriously, though, you're right on with your comments. It seems more and more Nixonesque the more we find out. Hooveresque, really. I'd bet ya dollars to doughnuts (and by the way, Annette, that's a sucker bet in your last post! You KNOW you're right!)that we will, eventually, find out about Cheney's Enemies List and CIA files on those he wished to destroy. God, I love having such smart bloggin' Girlfriends! You do ROCK, you know.

Thanks for the tip on the movie. Will have to find on Netflix once I am back. Sounds like a must-see for us liberal-types.

Am off in the a.m. to Cub Scout Camp. 4 days of hundreds of 9-10 year old boys...ritalin salt lick, anyone??? Ah, but this is how our kids make great memories, so I am off to the dirt, heat, WWI era tents/cots and bugs.

Annette, MG, Conch and Jen, and all my fellow politicos, please keep an eye on the country for me and give 'em what for while I am gone. My smart phone battery won't last more than 2 days, and the Den Leader has banned me from charging it in the Lodge after the last campout. It really wasn't that bad. Electrical fires just smoke a lot... ;) Thanks for the great post, MG. Have a terrific weekend, Girlfriends - See you next week!
Wish me luck!